Major Ashish Chadha, Chadha Investments, Delhi (Member, FIFA)
No - answer to both is the same. The world as a whole is smarter, brighter than India individually and India is a net importer .You need to be in the world as a strategy.
Dhruv Mehta, Mumbai (Member, FIFA)
Currency : The case for global diversification still remains from a long term asset allocation viewpoint. Volatility in currency supports the case for diversification. Clearly the sharp depreciation of the Rupee over the last 2 years has been very sharp and therefore there is a likelyhood of the Rupee remaining stable or appreciating over the next 2 years. Thus one should not expect currency depreciation to amplify returns from international investments. It is very difficult to make very long term prediction of the currency movement . Over the last 30 years the Rupee has depreciated by 6-7% per annum against the dollar. Hence I would not predict a change in the long term trend. We believe the case for global diversification in the equity of fundamentally strong international companies remains compelling.
Market : Indian markets could be at an inflection point if the winds of change in Delhi lead to better governance and higher economic growth. Higher earnings growth coupled with a PE re rating could see significant gains in the domestic market maybe far superior to returns from international investments. Thus greater attention must first be put on the domestic markets .
Over the last decade FIIs have been increase their investments in India while domestic investors have been sellers. Ownership of Equities by domestic investor has reached abysmal levels and these have to be raised. The question of global diversification arises only when there is a significant exposure to equities.
Bharat Phatak, Wealth Managers India, Pune (Member, FIFA)
Currency : August 2013 was a wake-up call on global diversification. I do not think it's time to go back to sleep now. Global diversification is necessary, albeit in baby steps as we learn the ropes. The home country bias will always remain. Large allocations in the portfolios will be to India. India remains the big bet, overseas diversification should be the appropriate hedge. Fundamentally, the INR will depreciate to the extent of higher relative inflation. Look at 40-year, 30-year, 20- year and 10-year numbers, and you will find ~5.5% depreciation in the INR versus the USD. This broadly corresponds to the difference in the inflation numbers in both the countries.
Another way to look at this - If you have responsibilities in USD - such as overseas education for your child 10 years from now, you can build up the provision in that currency in an appreciating asset.
Market : Look at a 3 year view. US & European economies are likely to recover to their normal growth path. Corporates in advanced countries are not leveraged, but cash rich. Dividend yield in many places is higher than bond yield. Hence, it is not necessary to conclude that opportunities exist only in India. A stable government is necessary but not sufficient to address the problems faced by India. While one hopes that we get a strong government and effective policy initiatives, it is too soon to celebrate. Hence a balanced approach in asset allocation will be prudent.
Pallav Bagaria, Brand New Day, Guwahati (Member, FIFA)
Currency : If your question is, are we recommending less now to our clients global diversification, the answer is NO, if you say that, are the clients less interested now, the answer is a clear YES. We take it as a asset allocation strategy. We believe currency weakness will remain a process over the years, it will no longer be a sudden thing as it happened over the last two years. We believe investors should invest in these assets as a compulsory allocation rather than taking any call on it.
Market : Situation these days change very dynamically, so just because a particular market has done well or may be will continue to do well over a period of time should not change the area of diversification. If portfolios are not diversified, one should be ready for another July 15th. As taught to us, don't keep all your eggs in one basket.
Lovaii Navlakhi, International Money Matters, Bangalore (Member, FIFA)
Global diversification is part of strategic allocation, and not tactical allocation. We recommend that all our clients have approximately 10-15% of their assets invested globally. Of course, this must consider immediate cash flow needs in India, and those have to be provided separately. The whole idea of global assets is that we hedge our investments as the number of factors affecting returns in each country is varied and diverse. Most importantly, it is a method to hedge one's risks and not a method to generate returns -- at least, that's not the primary motive.
When we look at annual returns across countries over the years, there is no consistency in outperformers. That alone justifies the need to indeed practice asset allocation, which should start, as I have repeatedly said, country-wise, currency-wise and then asset class-wise. We did not have products/ options earlier, but there is no excuse not to have recommended (and to continue to recommend) global diversification in the past 3 years.
Vinita Idnani, Capital League, Gurgaon (Member, FIFA)
Currency : Irrespective of rupee levels, in our view global diversification continues to remain a prudent investment strategy especially for HNIs which is our client segment. Equities are long term investments and in the long term rupee is expected to depreciate at the rate of 4-5% which is close to the inflation differential between the two countries. Also, the case for investment in global funds has become stronger with the improvement in the world economy. Most of the companies based in US and Europe not only offer diversification to those markets but the underlying companies derive more than 50% of their revenue from non-US and non- European markets indirectly giving a play on the other world markets.
Market : Asset allocation and diversification strategies must not change just because prospects for certain asset class look better. This will defeat the entire case for diversification.
Sanjay Sondhi, Pegasus Advisory, Delhi (Member, FIFA)
I still maintain that we must persist with allocating investor wealth in USD assets ; it may not take very long for the Indian market rally to pause and correct ; the next event is the Indian election results and the outcome points to a fractured mandate which will be terrible for the Indian stock market.
And even if Mr Modi comes into power with the assistance of some coalition partners the market will still tank based on investors assessment of the stability of such an alliance and the pound of flesh these partners will demand.
In my view Indians are under invested in USD and as part of a broader asset allocation strategy we must achieve that percentage which we have decided upon for the particular investor.
Abhenav Khettry, Vyana Wealth, Kolkata (Member, FIFA)
I have the following views on International Funds:
1. Recommending funds has become something of a seasonal fruit habit, sell, what is selling in the market, flavour of the season. Advisors have to follow a long term asset allocation and the current scenario is good for entering developed markets. In my opinion, asset allocation should also include developed market equities, as there is a difference in the movements of developed and developing market equities. Developed market equities also have much lower volatility than emerging market equities, thus they need to be a part of asset allocation
2. Returns in Indian equities are liquidity driven. Despite rising markets, DIIs are net sellers, only FII flows are fuelling this rally. The moment the tap is turned off, we will see renewed volatility in Indian equities. Our asset allocation cannot be based on foreign liquidity.
3. Despite improving current account figures we are net importers of basic energy, the appreciation of the rupee is primarily because of investment flows and like I mentioned earlier, these could be seasonal. Having a portion in Dollar or Euro assets is advisable. Always understand your entire portfolio will not behave in the same way at all times and this is why it is important to diversify internationally.
4. We as a house now have 20% of equity assets in overseas equity and look to proportionately increase it to atleast 25% of our overall equity AUM.
5. Investors are also now understanding and appreciating the benefits of investing internationally and the funds are also becoming a pull product.
Nitin Bajaj, Cedrus Consultants, Pune
Currency : We typically invest in these funds as a diversification over and above domestic equity funds. Typically we do not invest more than 5% to 10% of equity allocation and that too for investors with a good corpus who have invested in all plain vanilla asset classes based on their required allocation. Currency plays a role but only if we look at it as a tactical allocation for shorter durations.
Market : Definitely Indian Equities are better off and we expect them to do well in the future. But as discussed in the previous question we do not allocate more than 10% of the total equity allocation and there are regions which can be looked as investment opportunities even today. In this scenario we will be 5% in global equities which is the lower part of the required allocation. So limited global diversification is what we recommend.
Shrikant Bhagavat, Hexagon Capital, Bangalore
While we avoided exposure to US markets so far as the opportunity in India seemed better and rupee already weak, the opportunity in US now seems better with both rupee stronger and profit margins for the S&P 500 companies at am all time high. In any case, Indian large cap markets are above fair value.
The argument for diversification remains. I am of the opinion that in the long run the INR will continue to depreciate simply because of the inflation differential between the US and India that will continue in the foreseeable future. So with growth prospects improving for global growth, investing in growing foreign markets is a clear option.
Dhiraj Mittal, Prime Capital Services, Delhi
Currency : No. The current strength in rupee is a good opportunity to build dollar assets.
Market : It makes sense to stick to global diversification.
Hemant Rustagi, WiseInvest Advisors, Mumbai (Member, FIFA)
Although appreciation in the rupee has negatively impacted the performance of international funds, the current uptrend may not be sustainable for long for more than one reason. First, the RBI is not likely to allow the rupee to strengthen beyond a certain level as it would hurt exports. Second, if the election results turn out to be unfavourable for the market, the resultant FII selling would weaken the rupee. Third, an increase in the US Fed tapering as well as removal of restrictions on gold imports could impact rupee negatively.
Therefore, investors who have been investing in international funds as a part of their geographic diversification strategy should continue their investment process. However, for those investors who may have been investing aggressively in these funds, it's time to pare the exposure and bring it within a range of 5-10 percent of their overall equity portfolio size.
Global investing adds a new dimension to diversification as international markets are un-correlated in a number of ways and one gets an opportunity to invest in economies that either have a current account surplus or low fiscal deficit. Therefore, the current uptrend in the rupee and domestic equity market should not compel an investor to abandon the strategy of global diversification. In fact, regular investments in international funds in a disciplined manner can be a good idea. Considering that currency fluctuations can impact returns significantly, the strategy of making regular investments can even out its impact over time.
However, it would be prudent to highlight here that international funds are suitable only for experienced investors with a decent sized equity portfolio. Retail investors, who are in the process of building their equity fund portfolio, should continue to focus on funds investing in domestic markets as they provide ample opportunities to diversify portfolio across market caps as well as different investment philosophies.
Rajan Sareen, Crescore Capital, Delhi
Currency : The case of Global diversification and the returns expected in the current scenario looks less attractive as compared to Investment in Indian Bonds & equities markets given the fact that that a stable political condition in India may give a reasonable opportunity to Invest by FII in Indian bond markets as they may get attracted by the chances of better earning prospects by lower interest rates in India. The investment in India may bring down the chances of dollar outflow thus making the rupee even stronger. The stronger rupee and lower Interest rates will Increase the prospects of Indian companies, excluding ITs, to have a robust balance sheet in the coming years, this is turn would have a double impact and will further Increase the investment in Indian equities .So this Indicates a very strong reason for rupee strengthening from the current level & the hedge may not work favorably, as it may lose its charm in the longer run.
Market: Keeping the logic of the above developments, the case of Investment in Indian equities is advisable, nonetheless, as an asset class, 15 pc of the Investment in emerging markets with 5% in developed markets hold a better opinion for asset diversification.
Killol Ringwala, Safe Assets, Ahmedabad
Currency : India is a trade deficit country and hence it is subject to currency volatility whenever there is large FII outlfows or whenever there is a sudden change in the monetary policy of US as we show in May last year when Fed announced its intention for tapering. Also world is today controlled by handful of multinational corporates which are listed in either US or Europe. With this perspective in mind we are of the opinion that a minimum of 15 to 20 percent of Individual portfolio should be earmarked to global funds, particularly US and European funds.
Market : As has been proved by various studies that over long term money is made by sticking to asset allocation plan and not taking active calls in one direction or the other. So despite euphoric mood building up in India one should stick to his/her individual asset allocation plan drawn in consultation with their respective wealth advisor and not make any abrupt changes mid course.
V.K. Sudarshan, Veekays Enterprises, Chennai
I personally feel one should stay invested in Global assets. There is
every possibility dollar will become stronger around sep 14. At the same
time, I am not suggesting any fresh investments, since both debt and
equity markets are offering better opportunities.
In the last 3 months I increased my clients exposure to Arbitrage funds,
compared to income and equity schemes. I am booking profits on long term
equity, were we sit on 20% CAGR, and moving to liquid plus and doing STP
Conclusion
Global diversification may not be top of mind for many investors, but successful advisors continue to stay sharply focused on the merits of global diversification and are not really getting swayed by near term trends. As Bharat Phatak puts it succinctly, events of 7 months ago were a wake up call - let's not go to sleep now. Most of the advisors we connected with are unanimous in their view that they do not see the Indian rupee getting into a secular appreciation mode till such time that inflation differentials persist. Some believe that tactically investing overseas when the rupee has substantially appreciated, may be a smart thing to do. Most of the advisors also believe that euphoria over Indian equity markets should not be taken as a sign to go overboard. Helping your clients maintain their asset allocation discipline is the key to long term success. Maintaining allocations in an asset class that is temporarily out of sight and out of mind for many investors, is a challenge - but dealing with this challenge and helping clients stick to agreed plans is perhaps what will underpin long term success - theirs and yours.
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